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	<title>Comments on: Institutional Cinematic Sensibility, Updated</title>
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		<title>By: M.A. Peel</title>
		<link>http://newcritics.com/blog1/2007/06/21/institutional-cinematic-sensibility-updated/#comment-6276</link>
		<dc:creator>M.A. Peel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all you Vertigo fans, I will feel guilty that I visited Robert Harris and Jonathan Katz in 1995 when they were restoring Vertigo. They had one of the internegs they had made from the original that they didn't need any longer, so Harris gave me 6 frames of Madeleine at the Golden Gate Bridge.  He also gave me 3 frames of Rex Harrison in My Fair Lady.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all you Vertigo fans, I will feel guilty that I visited Robert Harris and Jonathan Katz in 1995 when they were restoring Vertigo. They had one of the internegs they had made from the original that they didn&#8217;t need any longer, so Harris gave me 6 frames of Madeleine at the Golden Gate Bridge.  He also gave me 3 frames of Rex Harrison in My Fair Lady.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Watson</title>
		<link>http://newcritics.com/blog1/2007/06/21/institutional-cinematic-sensibility-updated/#comment-6258</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, Hitch is over-intellectualized - but heck, you've got Gone with the Wind and Wizard of Oz in the top 10, too. Pop culture, baby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, Hitch is over-intellectualized - but heck, you&#8217;ve got Gone with the Wind and Wizard of Oz in the top 10, too. Pop culture, baby!</p>
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		<title>By: newcritics - &#187; 100 Plus 10</title>
		<link>http://newcritics.com/blog1/2007/06/21/institutional-cinematic-sensibility-updated/#comment-6231</link>
		<dc:creator>newcritics - &#187; 100 Plus 10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Edward Copeland has the full Top 100 plus the original list and even tracks some of the biggest movers, and here on the Newcritics blog, M.A. Peel has a close analysis of the Top 10. A few observations about the lists (and the commentary about the lists) in no particular order: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Edward Copeland has the full Top 100 plus the original list and even tracks some of the biggest movers, and here on the Newcritics blog, M.A. Peel has a close analysis of the Top 10. A few observations about the lists (and the commentary about the lists) in no particular order: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Chutry Experiment &#187; 100 Plus 10</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Chutry Experiment &#187; 100 Plus 10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Edward Copeland has the full Top 100 plus the original list and even tracks some of the biggest movers, and over on the Newcritics blog, M.A. Peel has a close analysis of the Top 10.Ã‚  A few observations about the lists (and the commentary about the lists) in no particular order: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Edward Copeland has the full Top 100 plus the original list and even tracks some of the biggest movers, and over on the Newcritics blog, M.A. Peel has a close analysis of the Top 10.Ã‚  A few observations about the lists (and the commentary about the lists) in no particular order: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: OutOfContext</title>
		<link>http://newcritics.com/blog1/2007/06/21/institutional-cinematic-sensibility-updated/#comment-6216</link>
		<dc:creator>OutOfContext</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm pretty much with Kevin on this one.  I have no problem with a film canon (you've got to master the rules to break them right) and it's fun as a discussion starter, but mostly my eyes just glaze over.
I like Hitchcock, but I tend to think he's seriously overintellectualized.
Chuck, I'd be interested in a short list of your favorite women directed pictures.  I've been watching a lot of Ida Lupino lately and it has raised her in my estimation.  I know a lot of women directed in the silents as well, but I don't recall seeing to many of those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty much with Kevin on this one.  I have no problem with a film canon (you&#8217;ve got to master the rules to break them right) and it&#8217;s fun as a discussion starter, but mostly my eyes just glaze over.<br />
I like Hitchcock, but I tend to think he&#8217;s seriously overintellectualized.<br />
Chuck, I&#8217;d be interested in a short list of your favorite women directed pictures.  I&#8217;ve been watching a lot of Ida Lupino lately and it has raised her in my estimation.  I know a lot of women directed in the silents as well, but I don&#8217;t recall seeing to many of those.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Tryon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Tryon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I'm not sure it'll ever be fully possible to consider the two Godfather films separately, although I think the second film is stronger.  Individually both films are great, but I think the epic nature of the pair makes each individual film even stronger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;ll ever be fully possible to consider the two Godfather films separately, although I think the second film is stronger.  Individually both films are great, but I think the epic nature of the pair makes each individual film even stronger.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Tryon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Tryon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually teach &lt;i&gt;North by Northwest&lt;/i&gt; when I teach intro to film.  I noticed that most of the American films I teach are on the list, which isn't surprising, but I wonder how much institutions like AFI and university curricula are mutually reinforcing when it comes to creating these film canons.

I also wonder when the AFI will wake up and realize that women direct movies, too.  Not a single film on the top 100 list was directed by a woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually teach <i>North by Northwest</i> when I teach intro to film.  I noticed that most of the American films I teach are on the list, which isn&#8217;t surprising, but I wonder how much institutions like AFI and university curricula are mutually reinforcing when it comes to creating these film canons.</p>
<p>I also wonder when the AFI will wake up and realize that women direct movies, too.  Not a single film on the top 100 list was directed by a woman.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd take Eva Marie Saint and North by Northwest, personally. But I do love Rear Window. My kids prefer Vertigo, strangely enough - they're huge Hitch fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d take Eva Marie Saint and North by Northwest, personally. But I do love Rear Window. My kids prefer Vertigo, strangely enough - they&#8217;re huge Hitch fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From some of your comments re your likes and dislikes (such as &lt;em&gt;GWTW&lt;/em&gt;) I'm learning that our tastes are not all that close. (Me, I'll take &lt;em&gt;Vertigo&lt;/em&gt; over &lt;em&gt;Rear Window&lt;/em&gt; though I love both and prefer Kelly to Novak.)

Still, re the list changes, we're almost in sync. &lt;em&gt;Godfather II&lt;/em&gt; may be the better movie, even if the first film provides the context.

These lists are generally useless anyway, something I've posted about myself.

And I agree that mentioning &lt;em&gt;Casablanca&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Titanic&lt;/em&gt; together is pure movie stoogery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From some of your comments re your likes and dislikes (such as <em>GWTW</em>) I&#8217;m learning that our tastes are not all that close. (Me, I&#8217;ll take <em>Vertigo</em> over <em>Rear Window</em> though I love both and prefer Kelly to Novak.)</p>
<p>Still, re the list changes, we&#8217;re almost in sync. <em>Godfather II</em> may be the better movie, even if the first film provides the context.</p>
<p>These lists are generally useless anyway, something I&#8217;ve posted about myself.</p>
<p>And I agree that mentioning <em>Casablanca</em> and <em>Titanic</em> together is pure movie stoogery.</p>
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