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		<title>By: Tom Watson</title>
		<link>http://newcritics.com/blog1/2007/04/08/a-tinny-little-sputnik/#comment-1917</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compositions, fair enough (though the conventional classic compositions all came from songs, or linked songs together).

I'm still trying to figure out if they could be played by others - is there/could there be notation?

And if I get hooked on a riff and start humming it and eventually brought it into a 2:30 song - is it mine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compositions, fair enough (though the conventional classic compositions all came from songs, or linked songs together).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still trying to figure out if they could be played by others - is there/could there be notation?</p>
<p>And if I get hooked on a riff and start humming it and eventually brought it into a 2:30 song - is it mine?</p>
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		<title>By: Neddie Jingo</title>
		<link>http://newcritics.com/blog1/2007/04/08/a-tinny-little-sputnik/#comment-1910</link>
		<dc:creator>Neddie Jingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So are they songs?&lt;/i&gt;

Certainly not by the dictionary definition of the word. "Compositions," I think, is the better term. Spontaneous, communal compositions. As Andy says in the interview, the best metaphor is recorded musical conversation -- but an abstract one, using noises produced by instruments rather than words -- or of three people making a sculpture together.

Remember his considered rejection of architecture as a metaphor to describe the process of making these -- things, whatever they are. (That was why I'd planned to ask the faux-naive question, by the way -- I knew he'd reject the metaphor.) Songs have structure, balance, and symmetry, and the ornateness or simplicity of the decoration determines the emotional effect of the piece -- anything from Rococo to Bauhaus.

The compositions on Monstrance have none of these characteristics; they meander from one timbre to another spontaneously, at the common whim of the composers. This can be a recipe for self-indulgent poot at the hands of less sympathetic performers, and it's a real marvel that they've managed to pull something off that's extremely listenable and accessible.</description>
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<p>Certainly not by the dictionary definition of the word. &#8220;Compositions,&#8221; I think, is the better term. Spontaneous, communal compositions. As Andy says in the interview, the best metaphor is recorded musical conversation &#8212; but an abstract one, using noises produced by instruments rather than words &#8212; or of three people making a sculpture together.</p>
<p>Remember his considered rejection of architecture as a metaphor to describe the process of making these &#8212; things, whatever they are. (That was why I&#8217;d planned to ask the faux-naive question, by the way &#8212; I knew he&#8217;d reject the metaphor.) Songs have structure, balance, and symmetry, and the ornateness or simplicity of the decoration determines the emotional effect of the piece &#8212; anything from Rococo to Bauhaus.</p>
<p>The compositions on Monstrance have none of these characteristics; they meander from one timbre to another spontaneously, at the common whim of the composers. This can be a recipe for self-indulgent poot at the hands of less sympathetic performers, and it&#8217;s a real marvel that they&#8217;ve managed to pull something off that&#8217;s extremely listenable and accessible.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So are they songs?</description>
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		<title>By: Neddie Jingo</title>
		<link>http://newcritics.com/blog1/2007/04/08/a-tinny-little-sputnik/#comment-1894</link>
		<dc:creator>Neddie Jingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 14:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy replies to Tom's question in an email to me:

Nah! we of course couldn't play these live. Where would we start? We could only play unheard ones live, but only one sixth of the gig would be any good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy replies to Tom&#8217;s question in an email to me:</p>
<p>Nah! we of course couldn&#8217;t play these live. Where would we start? We could only play unheard ones live, but only one sixth of the gig would be any good.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph DeMarco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph DeMarco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 03:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Partsy interview. Looking foward to hearing the whole album and offering my two cents. (I'm still absorbing the eight Fuzzy Warbles discs I got for Valentines Day.) Of course I would be very surprised if any type of live performance came from the Monstrance. But hell, you never know, maybe Conan? Funny how my next post also mentions Sputnik -- the real one. Small world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Partsy interview. Looking foward to hearing the whole album and offering my two cents. (I&#8217;m still absorbing the eight Fuzzy Warbles discs I got for Valentines Day.) Of course I would be very surprised if any type of live performance came from the Monstrance. But hell, you never know, maybe Conan? Funny how my next post also mentions Sputnik &#8212; the real one. Small world.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Watson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 01:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listened to the Cosmonaut track - enjoyed it. Here's a question - if they only play it once, shouldn't we only listen once. Shouldn't our experience be improvised, temporary, momentary and fragile?

Actually, it would have been cool to fall into some jazz/blues progressions and then out again...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to the Cosmonaut track - enjoyed it. Here&#8217;s a question - if they only play it once, shouldn&#8217;t we only listen once. Shouldn&#8217;t our experience be improvised, temporary, momentary and fragile?</p>
<p>Actually, it would have been cool to fall into some jazz/blues progressions and then out again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Neddie Jingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neddie Jingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Are these Ã¢â‚¬Å“permanentÃ¢â‚¬Â songs now? Could the band play them again, take them on tour, cut different versions?&lt;/i&gt;

No more than you'd want to have exactly the same conversation you had three weeks ago, I think. It's an interesting philosophical question, isn't it: When does an improvisation stop being one?

&lt;i&gt;Could you or I do a cover?&lt;/i&gt;

I suppose you could play the same notes as you hear on the record. Another interesting question for the philosophers...

i&#62;This seems very considered.&lt;/i&gt;

I get the impression that the three approached the job very determined &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; to fall into conventional patterns like blues changes. These truly are some of the finest musicians and songwriters around, and they're good enough to know how to avoid a pitfall like that, even playing completely spontaneous music. 

Did you listen to any of the samples? It's really interesting stuff. Partridge has always had a rep as being a "musician's musician," and "Monstrance" has at its core a fascinating lecture on how music is created, where it comes from in the human soul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Are these Ã¢â‚¬Å“permanentÃ¢â‚¬Â songs now? Could the band play them again, take them on tour, cut different versions?</i></p>
<p>No more than you&#8217;d want to have exactly the same conversation you had three weeks ago, I think. It&#8217;s an interesting philosophical question, isn&#8217;t it: When does an improvisation stop being one?</p>
<p><i>Could you or I do a cover?</i></p>
<p>I suppose you could play the same notes as you hear on the record. Another interesting question for the philosophers&#8230;</p>
<p>i&gt;This seems very considered.</p>
<p>I get the impression that the three approached the job very determined <i>not</i> to fall into conventional patterns like blues changes. These truly are some of the finest musicians and songwriters around, and they&#8217;re good enough to know how to avoid a pitfall like that, even playing completely spontaneous music. </p>
<p>Did you listen to any of the samples? It&#8217;s really interesting stuff. Partridge has always had a rep as being a &#8220;musician&#8217;s musician,&#8221; and &#8220;Monstrance&#8221; has at its core a fascinating lecture on how music is created, where it comes from in the human soul.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Watson</title>
		<link>http://newcritics.com/blog1/2007/04/08/a-tinny-little-sputnik/#comment-1846</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 14:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Neddie a fantastic and interesting interview - so many things to comment on. Here's one:

Are these "permanent" songs now? Could the band play them again, take them on tour, cut different versions? Do they live on? Could you or I do a cover?

I think anyone who has a band has done this kind of thing to warm up - usually with most basic units, you all into the blues or something close and familiar. And sometimes you do this when half-loaded. This seems very considered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Neddie a fantastic and interesting interview - so many things to comment on. Here&#8217;s one:</p>
<p>Are these &#8220;permanent&#8221; songs now? Could the band play them again, take them on tour, cut different versions? Do they live on? Could you or I do a cover?</p>
<p>I think anyone who has a band has done this kind of thing to warm up - usually with most basic units, you all into the blues or something close and familiar. And sometimes you do this when half-loaded. This seems very considered.</p>
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